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If Islam is a violent religion: How come the Islamic countries are the safest in the world?

And if Christianity is a religion of love and peace, how come Christian countries are very violent and have the highest crime rates?? One thing that differs facts from opinions is statistics. Statistics don't lie. Statistics have revealed that most Islamic countries are safer than most European countries. America is far more violent than Europe, and therefore is way more violent than most Islamic countries. Even in the Christian third world countries the crime is very great; in fact, it is the highest in the whole world. Please do not try to cite Iraq and Afghanistan for being violent, they were not like that until the Americans entered there and put the ruling regimes (which kept these countries very very safe) upside down. Americans! Have you not known that your capital city is one of the most violent places on earth? Yet it is still no match for Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, New Orleans,.....etc???!!!!!!! Is this the peace and love that Jesus taught you?!! What is very interesting is that although Europe and America are far wealthier than most Muslim countries, they are far more violent!!! Can you believe that around 2.5 million Americans are currently behind bars?? Look at the statistics regarding violent crimes in America and Europe: Manslaughter, arson, rape, child abuse, etc! They're horrible! Look at the racism! Look at the queer methods of killing and torturing! All that comes from a religion of love and peace while Islam is a religion of hate and violence???! Do you not know that the annual amount of violent crimes in Baltimore, Maryland (population less than 1 million people) is more than the annual amount of violent crimes in 25 Islamic countries (populatio more than 500 million people)??! What??! 500:1 is the ratio of Christian violence against Islamic violence??!!! Remember that I did not go near South Africa, Angola, Liberia and other predominantly Christian countries!!! Wow! You guys never try to say the truth nor admit it, do you? You're justifying the high crime rate as a price of "freedom", while you're attacking safety because of the deterrent harsh laws of Islam!!???!!!!

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  1. CITE, Please! ... A reputable reference where all Islamic Countries are safer (including 'from Gov't') than, say: - Canada; - Sweden; - Norway; - Japan; - Greece; - Finland; - Austria; - Australia; - Switzerland; - Viet Nam. Ahmed: My request is SIMPLE - Surely you have AT LEAST ONE CITE for YOUR Extraordinary CLAIM - Please Show It! ( It's been >6 HOURS and you have shown *NOTHING*! ) [Edit]: Wow! You never SUBSTANTIATE your CLAIM at all! Still later... Ahmed: You Are The BIGOT I Thought You Were... Against ~4.9 BILLION non-Muslims Around The Globe! I've emailed you twice re your ugly position. ... RUA Typical Muslim? Pffft!
  2. People who are violent in Shari'a countries are threatened with cruel and unusual punishments, such as the removal of digits or hands. Here in Americaland, people go to jail for life, or are executed--at worst.
  3. i never heard that the islam religion was violent in fact i heard the opposite i dont know where you got that from
  4. I totally agree. We need stiffer gun control in my country. There is something to be said for cutting off the hand of a theif, I guess. You are defending the Taliban? Obviously, you are NOT a woman.
  5. 'Cause a lot of the violent things that happen in Islamic countries isn't a crime like it would be in the US. Also they kinda have some pretty harsh penalties. Trust me, I don't like Christians either. But it is a **** of a lot safer living around them.
  6. Try not to mix politics and religion, and then blame one for the result of the other. Do you really think it was better living under a "ruling regime" where the people lived in constant fear of being put to death? Where freedom and liberty were unheard of? I'll take my more "violent" USA over a totalitarian regime any day.
  7. I agree that the US has way too much violent crime. However, I wouldn't trade lower crime rates for the complete lack of freedom people have in many other countries. The Soviet Union under Stalin had a pretty low crime rate, but I wouldn't want to live there!
  8. Most Islamic violence targets infidels, not other muslims (note I said most). Not even in DC, Detroit, Baltimore etc. were 3,000 people killed in the same attack. And neither city could have been compared to Beirut in the 70s, Kosovo or Ambon in the 90s, Beslan, etc. Also, the only christian country I know of is Pitcairn island and I don't even think they lock their doors there. The US sure isn't one, and it's way more christian than Europe.
  9. Most experts do not agree with you and have compiled a list of future events that may shock you. None of them include the muslims being peaceful. Economic analysis predictions for our future: If you were reading a newspaper 15 years from now it would probably sound like this. The concluding of the Iraq war shortly after the election of a Democratic president. The mass exodus of the coalition troops, did not stop the terrorists attacks. The exploding of an Atom bomb in Los Angeles port authority, September 11, 2010. When the explosion in the harbor killed millions of people and caused billions of dollars worth of damage. Also, the fallout spreading across the country, carried by the jet stream. The predictions are that cancer deaths will rise dramatically. The government felt a speedy response was in order. So as expected the USA government sent over planes carrying Atom bombs. Fearing nuclear attack would be just to devastating. But an Atom bomb would stop any further attacks. The president declared we should not do more than what has been done to us. So as you know that is when the two planes dropped one atom bomb on Iran and one on Iraq realizing this was a coalition effort, finally the American troops have brought the two leaders together if not the people. This brought a short pause to the civil war in Iraq. However, a short time later, the survivors were divided into groups of militants and resumed the fighting. Millions died and it caused billions of dollars worth of damage. It is thought that this has cause them to think twice about gathering the resources to make and deliver another atom bomb to the states. Also stopping any nuclear bomb threat as all the efforts in that direction were destroyed by the Atom bomb. Leaving a situation similar to what happened in Japan by the two atom bombs dropped there. Africa has been completely taken over by the Islamic forces and most of the native Africans have been killed or starved in the largest extermination program in the history of the world. Muslims are fighting between themselves over the land in Africa and civil wars are raging all over the country. As Muslims continue killing Muslims. The problems in Iraq and Iran has caused the current government to rethink alternative fuels as huge refinery’s are being built, using agricultural wastes and garbage to make fuels. All new houses has to provide a portion of its own power such as solar panels on the roof to wind mills in the back yard. Power plants have been build over the city sewerage systems so most cities now are providing their own power source. From the new dam projects to the refinery’s in the mid west to process corn and other agricultural wastes. The war between Mexico and the USA is finally over and Mexico has now joined the Union as our 53 state. After the up rising of Mexico’s poor against Mexico’s drug lord’s and the super rich. After the mass killings and the take over it was feared that Mexico would once again be taken over by a ruthless dictator as it has been in the past. Since the war was only against a few hold outs it was swift and decisive. Now the work of rebuilding has begun and its abundant natural resources is going to be a boom to the economy. Putting Mexicans back to work in their own country. Each state will be allowed to have its own language, so California, Texas, and Mexico will retain Spanish as their state language‘s. To control the ever growing population, congress just passed a bill to use the surgical placement device called BCD into the arms of young women on entering high school, as a birth control device. It can be removed when she is married and can prove they plan on taking care of this child, for 20 years. Every women is required to show proof that she can support a child before she is allowed to have one. After one child a women will be surgically sterilized. In special circumstances a couple may have two children. But to do so they would have to go before a judge and show a very good reason. Any child shown to have a defect will be either aborted or put to sleep shortly after birth. The couple will then be allowed to have another child. [remember this is the generation who had abortions, they wouldn’t think twice about euthanasia of their parents to end their suffering?] Handicapped people unable to take care of themselves. Any older adult unable to take care of themselves will be allowed to die with dignity, in a medical establishment, by euthanasia. This will allow us to empty the nursing homes and eliminate the huge financial drain on the publics resources. Many of these people are in a vegetative state and would prefer to end their life. Thus removing the ones who cannot work and even enjoy themselves or at least take care of themselves. The social security will be available to those who are simply retired and want a few years to enjoy before death. Anyone over 70 may be able to have euthanasia in a medical facility at no cost to their family. Anyone 80 years old will be required to report for euthanasia, family members are required to see that this is done. This is a merciful provision to allow humans to die with dignity when the time has come. As to prisons: Anyone convicted of a crime such as murder or pedophiles or rape or considered dangerous to the public. It is proven beyond any shred of doubt must be euthanasia. It is to be carried out by a speedy sentence. Within that month or two months at the latest. Any capital crime, receives the death sentence. All prison inmates are required to work in the fields harvesting the crops under armed guard. If they are unable to do manual labor then they are to work in the factory’s. Anyone unable to work is to receive a death sentence. They will be paid no wages during their incarceration. They are to be given any job that it is difficult to find anyone else to do. Large religious organizations will be against the law. All money’s collected by these organizations was confiscated to help the public. It was the public’s money and so was collected to help the public. As was all religious buildings and their resources. You can believe whatever you like but keep it to yourself. We are having a don’t ask don’t tell policy towards religion. This is in an effort to stop the religious wars through out the country. This was instituted after the Muslim uprising and the bombing in Los Angeles. When there was a growing animosity between Christians and Muslims. To avoid a civil war between religion’s in the USA. Any church building’s will not be allowed. Anyone caught preaching religion will be arrested. Keep your religious beliefs to yourself.
  10. I resent the assumption that all americans blindly subsribe to christian doctrine... and you don't need religion in order to lead an ethical & positive life, effecting the people around you & your society with love, respect & humility. Aren't the people slaughtering people in Darfur muslim arabs? You excluded Iraq & Afganistan from your answer, but you didn't exclude the genocide taking place in Africa. Also, while I know genital mutilation (aka female circumcision) is not a musltim tradiation, and actually has roots in older naturalistic traditions of the middle east & africa... no matter how low the murder or rape rate is in a country... if You're cutting little girls clitoris off, that's f*cked up & counteracts any statistics that appear to make a country less violent. Also... honor killings. Human beings are animals. There are many good, wholesome, intellegent people in the world.... but sadly, there are also many many hateful, idealistic, fundamentalist (believing your belief system & way of life is superior to others) that do harm to other human beings because they can. Islam is not an inherently violent religion, neither is christrianity...but like any religion, both can be abused & bastardized into vehicles for hate & oppression against people.
  11. so the genocide that Saddam practiced on his own people is somehow forgotten? what about the honor killings? what about what the Muslim people are doing in Darfur? (rape and murder of children on a daily basis) you site the US as a Christian Country but it is not now and has never been such. (see the treaty of Tripoli) many of our citizens are christian. but many more are of many different religions or Athiest. Iraq, was not a violent place before the american invasion? learn your history. less than 20 years has passed since Irag invaded a peacful neighbour (Kuwait). and crime rates are low be3cause of the very severe punishments.( cutting hands off of thieves. public beatings etc.) for minor crimes. oh yeah, in America we do not cut the heads off of Prisioners of war. and then broadcast it on the internet. we do not kidnap people that come to help us. and kill them because their religion is different. we are not by any menas perfect. but you all have a long way to come to.
  12. They are safe countries unless you are in some way a dissident from Islam. The benevolence and safety of a cultural system is measured by how minorities and dissidents are treated. When churches are established as freely in Islamic countries like Saudia Arabia as they are in the United States, when there is no violent coercion in terms of religion in countries like the Sudan, and when the Koran can be examined using the same historical critical methods as the Bible has been submitted to in the West without fear of reprisal-- then, and only then will your arguments have merit.
  13. It is not all about religion but it is about cultures. Even in the same country you can find areas are safer than others. Commonly, the big cities that holds many different people and more money are suffering from more violent and high percentages of crime. On the other hand, the most poverty exists the most violent you get whatever the religion there is. Also we should recognize that believers (whatever their religion is) are more patient to face the bad conditions and to not act violently that they try to avoid committing bad things like steal, kill, rape...etc. I would like to add that the political situation plays a big role in what violence the country suffers from. Peace!
  14. What do you consider crime and violence? You must mean unsanctioned murder, as Muslims often kill and claim it to be God's will. In Israel, aren't most of the suicide bombers Muslim? And what about Saudi Arabia? Didn't the royal family kill one of its own princesses (who was a little girl) because she winked at her bodyguard? Didn't Iraq kill its own prince in the 70s for sleeping with an English woman? Isn't it Islamic law that your father shoot you in the head for premarital sex? Sounds like you don't call those acts crime and violence. I would. That said, no one can deny America's high crime rate. Although US laws were based on Christian tenets on paper, I don't believe these tenets were really the foundation of US law in spirit. The first "Americans" were supposedly fleeing religious persecution in England, but they were willing to kill Native Americans to do it. Just as bad if not worse, these Christian men and women kept slaves and the specter of that centuries-old sin still haunts the US to this day. In America, many (if not most) people claim Christianity but they probably aren't really living the Christian life. I'm not sure if the same can be said of Muslims in the Middle East. When they kill, they claim to be doing it in God's name. But regardless of the reason, it's still very violent. In the US, we also have separation of church and state. Many people are proud of that and would fight to the death for it. I don't agree or disagree with this. However, Islam is an endemic part of many Middle Eastern countries. Hence, you call them "Islamic" countries. The governments there often rule by sharia, or religious law. On the other hand, America is NOT a Christian country. In fact, no religion is really as much a part of America as Islam is of most places in the Middle East.
  15. Ok ,lets take it easy,Both religions and others do not say be violent but often people misunderstand it or they have changed it to suit their own purposes ....Terrorism and Crimes have no religion....:)
  16. So you are saying that it is safer to live in Iraq or Somalia than the U.S.? Don't give any bologna about Iraq being peaceful before the U.S. invasion. Have you forgotten the torture, the rape rooms, the mass graves, and the chemical weapons attacks on the Kurds? Was Saddam your role model? Is this the love of Islam?
  17. Muslim countries safest in the world?????????? *to force* women to cover themselves all over or being whipped to death in public? to forbid a wife to walk side-by-side to her own husband?? to forbid women to seat together with men in public places? to ask women for FOUR (4) male witnesses to proof she has been raped OR if she doesn't have the FOUR (4) male witnesses, sentence her to death? for women are not to be allowed to drive? for females not being allowed to go to school? to force women to have a "female circumcision" because women don't have the right to enjoy sex?? to allow men to be womanizers when women are killed publicly for being accused of adultery? to force women to marry someone they don't even know, OR kill her if doesn't? countries where men are viciously violent towards the females?? sickos that strap dynamite sticks around their waist with a few pounds of nails and blow yourselves up to kill all those who don't think or believe like you?? Muslims countries *are safe* only to the bunch of cowards that control the lives and the minds of everybody else, but not EQUALLY safe for all citizens. That's what you call "a safe country", you're pitiful and ignorant.
  18. I like what eve said -- grasshopper--the punishmemts you gave are not sanctioned by islam --and we kill tons of ppl here in american too--esp. Texas aka saudi arabia west not perfect--how can you compare war zones to here and now? yes, iraq was bad before but still not the same-- add up all the murders here etc...when you see them as individual crimes and then compare them they way you do to a mass killing it looks different I know -- but that's not the only way to look at it! millie --u have been brainwashed--i don't even want to get into what each person has said that is wrong (because I do it a lot already and it is tiring) but for example femal circumcision is done more on christians than muslims -- it is not islamic --somebody asked the prophet about it once (because it was a cultural things some ppl did) and he said not to cut to much (just cut the hood of the clitoris not what they do now) and if the hood was cut you could feel it A LOT MORE --plus muslims aren't hung up about sex like christians sex is a GOOD thing in Islam -- muslims used to talk about how to please a member of the opposite sex--it wasn't something to be ashamed of like in traditional western culture I have lived in other countries and felt a lot safer elsewhere!!! (other western and nonwestern)
  19. Its never fair to equate any religion with violence and put a religion on trial for the actions of some individuals. I think it is rather: lack of religion and breakdown of the family unit that includes also the extended family, that is perhaps largely responsible for societal violence and crime, coupled with the introduction of Materialism in place of religion and promotion of greed through Materialism. Yes: I do know someone who has lived in Saudi for several years, and they have told me of Americans who have lived in Saudi for as long as 20-25 years. They feel so secure and safe living there so much so they stay for so long. Same for others expatriates living in the Gulf regions. The pure religion of Islam promotes peace and stability and is a complete holistic guiding principle for family life and life in general. And the Islamic religion is STILL a strong guiding principle of life and family unity in these countries, thus explaining low crime and violence generally. Peace.
  20. I just wanted to say a few words for whatever it is worth. The United States isn't all Christian. I don't know statistics but I'm sure there are many people in the United States that haven't accepted Jesus Christ into their heart and lives. There are all sorts of religions here in the US. So why is it the Christians who are responsible for all the violence in the "Christian" countries. I didn't even know there was a "Christian" country. As far as I was taught, Satan works hardest in the lives of those who are closests to God. Satan doesn't need to do anything with the people whom he has control over already. He's got them hook, line and sinker. Just wondering, if the "Islamic" countries are so safe and a joy to live in, then why are there so many native Islam people living here in the United States. Wouldn't they just love to stay in their peaceful country instead of coming over here? I have friends in the United Arab Emirates. I will have to ask for their take on the non-violent atmosphere they are experiencing. Thanks for your time. Just trying to live this life the best I can so that I can someday be with my heavenly Father in peace.
  21. That's not entirely true. Have you seen the World Peace Index? (Visionofhumanity.com) While the U.S. ranks around the same as most MENA and predominantly Muslim countries (exceptions Morocco, Tunisia, Oman, Qatar, and a bit of South Asia), Western Europe, Canada, Australia, Argentina, Japan, Madagascar, and a few scattered others ranked highest. Not one predominantly Muslim nation was in the top 10 (although Denmark, at number 3 is said to have the highest population of Muslims). Now, I live in a wonderfully peaceful Muslim country, Morocco, and I'm from the states, so you'd imagine that my perspective on violence has changed...it has. Moroccans are, on the whole, nonviolent people. They also practice a pretty moderate (relatively, anyhow) form of Sunni Islam, and are not under Shari'a law. It seems to me then, that Muslim morals combined with Western-style government/laws works a whole lot better than Shar'ia. Also...why suggest that the United States is a Christian country? It's a 76% Christian country (Source: CIA Factbook). The others are Jewish, Muslim (each 1%), "other" or "no religion." That leaves a large percent of the population without Jesus. So why drag him into it?
  22. I agree with you.Think about it for a sec. its the right religion is why. The way the Islamic empire is goverened itself is also why.
  23. as example,In Syria..you can walk in the street in any time every day I walk on 04:00 Am...and there is no thief or recidivist
  24. Praise be to Allah, the Most Exalted, the Most gracious... Great question brother i would first of all say... Well now according to statistics U.S.A is the country with the highest rate of rape... and also many other crime... Apparently according to statistics they have 2 women raped every mintue or something.. Subhanallah... while Saudi Arabia is the country with the lowest rate of rapes. Well the thing is that there is a bad person in every community like even in saudi arabic there are the black sheeps but then it somehow is atleast better off than the soo called FREE america... The main reason is the punishement given... Islam actually orders the rapist to be put in death.. would any of the american be willing to put a rapist who has raped their women (a mother or daughter or wife) in prison... NO!!! they would murder the guy who raped his mother... and how is it fair you want a rapist who rapes a unknown woman to be put in prison for several years... Islam surely gives the best of rights. And for the suicide bombing, the palestinians are dying and fear death in their evevryday of life. What kind of life is that? A 7 year old son loses his mum and cries with her blood on his face.. would anyone care to look after him... NO and what do many ignorant people say or ask WHY ARE MUSLIMS TERRORISTS... its like you let a your guest stay in your house for 2 days and the 3rd day he kicks you out of your own house and demands its his house and when you go in with a knife threatening him to go out he calls you a TERRORIST.. How fair is that... brothers and sisters i dont know why many of the people are still blinded like this.. Women are being raped in prisons thinking they've tried to do suicide bombing ... where on earth did rape come from... The iraqi's are dying... OKAY maybe few of them are being idiotic and killing people in the name of ISLAM but how does that include all the muslims.. No one blames christianity for hitler killing 6 million jews. Islam is a relegion of peace alhamdulillah. You want to know the true side then learn it not just blindly say "oh Islam teaches terrorism". Allah says in the Quran(25:63) "And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness." Subhanallah.... does that verse look like it teaches us muslims on how to bomb people? No open your eyes the IGNORANT... and think freely and learn the true side of Islam and not what the media shows.
  25. This is exactly why I'm going back home right after I finish school... My parents were sooo upset after the Virginia tech shooting... my mom said: " couldn't u study here instead of there? Nothing like that ever happens here... look at them... they just broke their last record in school shootings!!! " Since when I was 13-14... I used to go out alone... with friends my own age... without any adults... We used to go to the mall... movies... do stuff that teenagers do... and come back home around 12 a.m.... I always felt safe... I never knew anyone who had something happened to them... violence was just for the movies... But now... I turn on the local news... and omg... even 1 minute of it makes me pee my pants... I can't wait to go back home...
  26. YOu just summed it all up in here brother
  27. Safest???!!! Are you jocking? Submitted to horrible laws, that's sure. (Cutting hands, killed by stones and/or thrown by a running plane, prisons where people got treated like if they are in Hell ...). I wish you will open your eyes, ears and everything. WHY DO YOU IGNORE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HARDLY SUFFERING FOR SHARI'A LAWS? This isn't a sign of Humanity. Peace and Happiness.
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