why do muslims go on making absolute and infallible claims about the Quran and islam?
what happens if i lift up the Harry potter book and say its infallible and absolutely true? if you dont believe my claim then why do you believe that the Quran is infallible?
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- Muslims make claims that the Qur'an and Islam are absolute and infallible because it is true. Absolutely true. There is no need to waste time proving it. If you don't believe, that's on you.
- try to read it and understan it than u can talk.
- blah, blah, blah..forgot your medication? Try reading it first( i know it might be too hard for your narrow-minded self to digest, but try.)before cooking up tall tales...if you want a debate, come forth with intelligent questions first..stop blabbering nonsense.
- because the prophet muhammad said so and thats the bottom line cause ayesha (muhammads 9 year old wife) said so LOL also there is no proof that muhammad is a messenger of god... besides the fact he claimed it...
- Have you read it?
- Muslims have a primitive way of considering the world and their religion, they see things in black and white. They remind me of children, but those children carry real bombs.
- because unlike you i have read the quran and i have faith in allah peace outzzz
- It's fundamental. They are required to be in line with the basic dogmatic rule of a "faith". Which, by it's nature, means that their ability to reason is diminshed and they must accept these rules and social guidleines. They have the right to do that in America, I don't know why anyone would want to. But that is just me.............
- Okay there is a challenge in Quran in Soor-e-Al Baqra " its a challenge if they can write a single line like in Quran " so its open u can face the challenge .. but can u understand this " lakum deena kum wala-e-ya deen " or can u understand little easier " tumhara bheja kharab hai kyonki woh sach ko samajh nahi sakta, tumhari ankhien andhi hain kyonki woh sach dekh nahi sakti , tum bahri ho kyonki tum sach sun nahi sakti " if u need a doctor ? consult any islamic scholar
- wahaha Yeah the Harry Potter books would be about the level of your understanding! ** Whoa ONLY two words incorrect this time... Congrats! I guess before you dropped out of jr. high school you must have been paying attention..or something. Let's see.. should I explain why the Quran is "infallible" or let a Redneck, beerdrinking,Christian, Jeff Foxworthy and Larry the Cable Guy, closed minded, gender confused, country music fan in on a little secret?? ummmm... (Theme from Final Jepordy Plays) Yeah I guess the truth may explode your head.... You know your so called "Trinity" it is a Christian doctrine, stating that God is one Being Who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a mutual indwelling of three persons (not to be confused by "person"): the Father, the Son (incarnate as Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. Since the 4th century, in both Eastern Christianity and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as " three persons in one God," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal persons, are of one indivisible Divine essence, a simple being. The doctrine also teaches that the Son Himself has two distinct natures, one fully divine and the other fully human, united in a hypostatic union. Support of the doctrine of the Trinity is known as Trinitarianism. Most denominations within Christianity are Trinitarian, and regard belief in the Trinity as a mark of Christian orthodoxy... (this myth??!!) ARE YOU WITH ME SO FAR?? I'M I USING TO MANY BIIIIIIIIG WORDS!?? DID you know it is ONLY A MAN MADE CONCEPT and is wrong and incorrect, and that Indeed Jesus was a man just as Mohammad (PBOH)? The basis for the doctrine of the Trinity is found in New Testament passages that associate the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Two such passages are Matthew's Great Commission: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19) and St Paul's: "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all" (2 Corinthians 13:14). .. ahhhhhhh but here's the "kicker", In 325, the Council of Nicaea adopted a term for the relationship between the Son and the Father that from then on was seen as the hallmark of orthodoxy; it declared that the Son is "of the same substance," as the Father. This was further developed into the formula "three persons, one substance." The answer to the question "What is God?" indicates the one-ness of the divine nature, while the answer to the question "Who is God?" indicates the three-ness of "Father, Son and Holy Spirit." The Council of Nicaea was reluctant to adopt language not found in Scripture, and ultimately did so only after Arius showed how all strictly biblical language could also be interpreted to support his belief that there was a time when the Son did not exist. In adopting non-biblical language, the council's intent was to preserve what the Church had always believed: that the Son is fully God, coeternal with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. The Confession of the Council of Nicaea said little about the Holy Spirit. The doctrine of the divinity and personality of the Holy Spirit was developed by Athanasius (c 293 - 373) in the last decades of his life. He both defended and refined the Nicene formula. By the end of the 4th century, under the leadership of Basil of Caesarea, Gregory of Nyssa, and Gregory of Nazianzus (the Cappadocian Fathers.. FOR YOU THIS MEANS, The Cappadocians are significant figures in the history of the Church Fathers, who significantly promoted the early Christian theology, and are highly respected in both Western and Eastern churches as Saints.), the doctrine had reached substantially its current form. One explicit trinitarian passage often quoted from the King James translation of the Bible is the result of an addition at a later date. The passage now known as the Comma Johanneum or 1 John 5:7 from the King James Version; "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one..." may have begun as a marginal note quoting a homily of Cyprian (d. 258) that was inadvertently taken into the main body of the text by a copyist, or placed there because of "interpretive zeal" by "Latin patristic writers". The Comma found its way into several later copies, and was eventually back-translated into Greek and included in the third edition of the Textus Receptus which formed the basis of the King James Version. Erasmus, the compiler of the Textus Receptus, noticed that the passage was not found in any of the Greek manuscripts at his disposal and refused to include it until presented with an example containing it, which he rightly suspected was concocted after the fact. WHAT'S THIS??? THE ADDING and altering of more materials to YOUR "good book"??? (tsk tsk tsk) hehehe "The Trinity" invented so feeble minds can swallow the concept of GOD... funny. Peter Geach suggested that "a coherent statement of the doctrine is possible on the assumption that identity is "always relative to a sortal term." Christians admit that the Trinity is beyond our finite understanding to understand completely, as God is beyond our finite understanding." WHAT's THIS?? 3 HUMANS Trying to make up answer to where there was none?? Hummmmm... Which book is it.. you'd like to talk about being "infallible"?
- Because if they were to actually read it with an open mind and see all the contradictions it would prove it is not perfect and that would question their faith which would be haram to them. There are some very beautiful passages in the quran that teach one to be modest, devoted to God, live a good life, etc., but there are things that happened during that time that are reprehensible and unacceptable in this day and age. If the religion was more progressive it would be more believable.
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