Do any hadiths give an explanation for why stoning for adultery was not included in the quran?
This is what puts quran-only Muslims in a whole other boat when it comes to capital punishent for adulterers. Maybe it was intentionally left out to prove that quran-only is a false movement? - Thanks for your insight Tiffy.
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- The following are all Sunni books. Sahih al Bukhari Volume 8, pages 209-210, we read this sermon delivered by Hadhrath Umar during his last Hajj as Khalifa: "Certainly Allah sent Muhammad with the truth, and revealed to him the Book. One of the revelations which came to him was the verse of stoning. We read it and understood it". "The Messenger of God stoned and we stoned after him. I am concerned that if time goes on, someone may say, 'By God, we do not find the verse of stoning in the Book of God;' thus, the Muslims will deviate by neglecting a commandment the Almighty revealed." "Stoning is in the Book of God. It is the right punishment for a person who commits adultery if the required witnesses are available, or there was pregnancy without marriage or adultery is admitted." "When the verses "Rajm" [Stoning] and ayah "Rezah Kabir" descended, they were written on a piece of paper and kept under my pillow. Following the demise of Prophet Muhammad (S) a goat ate the piece of paper while we were mourning. 1. Sunan Ibne Majah, Volume 2, Page 39, Published Karachi. 2. Musnad Imam Ahmad, Volume 6, Page 269, Published Beirut. 3. Taweel Mukhtalif Al Hadees, Page 310, Published Beirut Al-Muttaqi 'Ali bin Husam al-Din in his book "Mukhtasar Kanz al-'Ummal" printed on the margin of Imam Ahmad's Musnad, Volume 2, page 2, in his hadith about chapter 33, said that Ibn Mardawayh reported that Hudhayfah said: 'Umar said to me 'How many verses are contained in the chapter of al-Ahzab?' I said, '72 or 73 verses.' He said it was almost as long as the chapter of the Cow, which contains 287 verses, and in it there was the verse of stoning. Suyuti narrates from Hadhrath Ayesha: "During the life of the Prophet (s), Surah Ahzab was read with 200 verses, when Uthman collected the verses we only found that amount that is found in the current Qur'an". Tafseer Durre Manthur Volume 5 page 180, al Itqan Volume 2 page 25 Sunni scholar al Hafidh Jalaladeen as Suyuti writes: "Hadhrath Umar said at the Saqifa that the Qur'an has 1,027,000 letters" Tafseer al Itqan" by as Suyuti, page 88 Suyuti also records the following words of Abdullah ibne Umar: "No one can proclaim that I have found the Qur'an complete because most of the Qur'an has been lost". "Tafseer Durre Manthur" as-Suyuti Volume 1 page 104 In Sahih Muslim Volume 7 (commentary of al-Nawawi) in the Book of al-Zakah, about the virtue of being satisfied with whatever God gives and about urging people to have that virtue, pages 139-140, reported that Abu al-Aswad reported that his father said: "Abu Musa al-Ash'ari invited the Qur'an readers of Basra. Three hundred readers responded to his invitation. He told them: You are the readers and the choice of the people of Basra. Recite the Qur'an and do not neglect it. Otherwise, a long time may elapse and your hearts will be hardened as the hearts of those who came before you were hardened." "We used to read a chapter from the Qur'an similar to Bara'ah in length and seriousness, but I forgot it. I can remember from that chapter only the following words: 'Should a son of Adam own two valleys full of wealth, he would seek a third valley, and nothing would fill Ibn Adam's abdomen but the soil. "'We used to read a chapter similar to Musabbihat and I forgot it. I only remember out of it the following: "'Oh you who believe, why do you say what you do not do? Thus a testimony will be written on your necks and you will be questioned about it on the Day of Judgment." Muslim also reported in the Book of al-Rida'ah (Book of Nursing), part 10, page 29, that 'Ayesha said the following: "There was in what was revealed in the Qur'an that ten times of nursing known with certainty makes the nursing woman a mother of a nursed child. This number of nursing would make the woman 'haram' (forbidden) to the child. Then this verse was replaced by 'five known nursing' to make the woman forbidden to the child. The Prophet died while these words were recorded and read in the Qur'an." Abi bin Ka'ab said that in his copy he has added "Surah Al khula" and "Surah Al hifd". Its verses were "(Actual words are cited in the Arabic text)" 1. Mujma-ul-Zayad, Volume 7, Page 157, Published Egypt 2. Al Itqan Fil Ulum-ul-Qur'an, Volume 2, Page 66, Published Lahore 3. Ruh al Ma'ani Volume 1, Page 25, Egypt Sahih al Bukhari Volume 5 hadith number 86: Alqama went to Sham and when he entered the mosque, he said, "O Allah! Bless me with a pious companion." So he sat with Abu Ad-Darda. Abu Ad-Darda' asked him, "Where are you from?" 'Alqama replied, "From the people of Kufa." Abu Ad-Darda said, "Isn't there amongst you the keeper of the secret which nobody else knows, i.e., Hudhaifa?" Alqama said, "Yes." Then Abu Ad-Darda further said, "Isn't there amongst you the person whom Allah gave refuge from Satan through the invocation of His Prophet, namely Ammar?" Alqama replied in the affirmative. Abu Ad-Darda said, "Isn't there amongst you the person who carries the Siwak (or the Secret) (i.e. of the Prophet, namely Abdullah bin Masud)?" Alqama said, "Yes." Then Abu Ad-Darda asked, "How (Abdullah bin Masud) used to recite the Surah starting with: 'By the night as it envelops; By the day as it appears in brightness?' " (92.1-2). Alqama said "And by male and female." Abu Ad-Darda then said, "These people (of Sham) tried hard to make me accept something other than what I had heard from the Prophet." Mustadrak: Abdullah bin Abbas would read the following verse in Surah Nisa "Fa ma asthathamthathu ba manaan ku" with these words 'la ajal masmee". When he was asked about this he said 'Allah (swt) revealed this verse in this way. "We in the presence of Rasulullah (s) would read this verse (5:67) as follows: "O Apostle! Deliver what has been sent down to you from your Lord; 'that 'Ali is the Maula of the Momineen', if you don't�." 1. Tafseer Durre Manthur Volume 2 page 298 2. Tafseer Fathul Qadeer, Volume 2 page 87 3. Tafseer Mazhari Volume 3 page 153 Ibn Masud also notes that he would read this verse from Surah Ahzab as follows: "and enough was Allah for the believers in their fight 'via Ali ibn Abi Talib'. 1. Tafseer Durre Manthur Volume 5 page 192 2. Tafseer Ruh al Maani, Volume 21 page 157
- Nope, it was intentionally left out to see who will follow false movements by humans (who make mistakes very often) instead of sticking to Gods words. It was left out, because God didn't want them to be stoned! This is an important issue, God would never leave such an important matter out just to test a couple of people! Don't be so opinionated okay? What you say is pure nonsense.
- There are quite a few Ahadith (Sahih ones in Bukhari and Muslim) indicating that this is the punishment for adulterers who are married. It is a controversial topic of course, but in no way can the Hadith be denied. They are authentic.
- According to some, in the Qu'ran there should have been a surah about stoning to death for married aldulterers. However, the story goes, that the Prophet (PBUH) gave the surah for save keeping to Aysha (may Allah be pleased with her) and she kept it under her bed. When she was not in the house, a goat walked in and ate the Surah. "When the verses “Rajm” [Stoning] and ayah “Rezah Kabir” descended, they were written on a piece of paper and kept under my pillow. Following the demise of Prophet Muhammad (S) a goat ate the piece of paper while we were mourning." Another translation goes: The verse of stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the Messenger of Allah (SAWW.) expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper." Sunan Ibn Maja, Volume 2, Page 39, Published Karachi. Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Volume 6, Page 269, Published Beirut. The Interpretation of Conflicting Narrations, Page 310, Published Beirut Punishment of stoning to death for adultery has not been prescribed in the holy Qur’an at all. The Prophet is reported to have prescribed this punishment in some cases but there is debate whether he did so before revelation of the verse of 100 lashes for zina (rape, fornication and adultery) or after that. There is no conclusive proof that he enforced any such punishment after the revelation of the verse 24:2 In fact stoning to death was prescribed by the Jewish law and the Prophet (PBUH) enforced it in case of a Jew and a Jewess in one case (see Bukhari 23:61), and others apparently occurred before the revelation of the Surah Nur (i.e. chapter 24). Also, stoning to death is in contradiction to the verse 4:25 wherein punishment for adultery is half for the slave-girls. Stoning to death cannot be made half whereas 100 lashes, as prescribed in 24:2 can be reduced to 50 in case of slave-girls. To me it's an insult to Allah to claim a goat would eat a verse with such important information as to life and death. Had Allah willed it, the different punishment for married adulterers would have been in the Qur'an and not open for debate. Peace, Tiffy Edit: I would like to add the following verses of the Qur'an: "Say: Though the sea became ink for the Words of my Lord, verily the sea would be used up before the words of my Lord were exhausted, even though We brought the like thereof to help." 18:109 "And if all the trees in the earth were pens, and the sea, with seven more seas to help it, (were ink), the words of Allah could not be exhausted. Lo! Allah is Mighty, Wise." 31:027 It clearly states here that He never runs out of words. Don't you think it is mocking Allah to take man made words above His holy scripture, the one He promised to protect? By claiming some things should have been there but are not there, you mock Him and his promise He would protect the Qur'an, since clearly men can add or omit things (even a goat can!) So what's left of His protection than? He also states: "This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." 05:03 PERFECTED. You can't add to something perfect. COMPLETED......why add something to a divine work that is complete? Do you not trust Allah when He speaks this words? By taking the ahadith over the word of Allah you doubt Him and His promise to you in the Qur'an. By following the ahadith and even taking ahadith OVER the qur'an, you doubt His promise to you and the fact that He made things perfect and complete. I do not understand why people do not see that. But ah well, it's just the opinion of little ole me!
- it is a controvarsal topic and not proved from any verses of quran. so if any thing which contradicts quran should not be accepted as a part of islam
- I thought they used mobile cranes to hang them from instead of all that labour intensive stone throwing which is only used against the Jews.
- a hadith attributed to Ayesha,that it was in surrah ehzaab,which consisted of 200 ayahs,and a goat ate that piece of leaf or paper on which it was written,a gross Contradiction to Glorious Quran 6:112-116,where Allah Says,Quran is Infallible,Perfect,Detailed,and free from contradictions.
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