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Why Islamic countries poor and unstable?

This is in general. I'm not talking about small countries with big count on OIL, I'm talking about in general.. have you ever used an Islamic car? or Islamic radio recorder? or TV produced in whole in Islamic nation? Are the world expecting stability in Islamic countries? why all Muslims suffer? If you are Muslim don't you ask yourself about the main reason that makes us different than even China, Russia, Europe and others!! Let's talk in general. Islamic nation like 1 billion, China one billion. Islamic countries in general dictatorship, China dictatorship. however, China growing amazingly. Islamic countries falling amazingly!! http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1252/is_4_129/ai_83355436 This NOT intended to offend anybody. IT IS NOT ATTACK ON MUSLIMS. YES IT IS AGAINST ISLAM. NO IT IS NOT AGAINST ISLAMIC NATION. NO, IT IS NOT AGAINST OUR COUNTRIES. simply cuz my country sadly located in the Islamic nation and actually was the leading of Islamic nation once!! )= Re: STOPEN, may I remind you that Islamic nation also older? Ottomon Empire controlled large region! did they get developed? or only after getting too secular? To PESA, I told you please, do not talk about past...past is past 1000 yrs ago!! leave it behind, look the present and treat. don't blame others for your faults. most Islamic world independent now..why all that problems? Israel established 1948, not stable, better developed than many, why?? Re: v_aaragom, Yes, I admire always your answers. but as I also know the region. Islam is problem in sense of ppl adopt it as their political and economical system. they believe it is the solution. you apply laws of before 1000 years on your country where world is different. Iran is good, yes, but you can't imagine that you can be much much better, Iran can be like China if you don't have Mullah's gov. simply, cuz random decisions and non-logical laws hinder economy. Mullah's have priority to interest they think to Allah more than their ppl. why Iran has problem with US and Israel..etc. so do many Arab including Iraq. Taiwan is very small unrecognized state and it is advanced more than Iran!! Israel is small and advanced. BTW, do you know I got a phishing email from a tehran based university? they wanted to steal my bank account? I'm serious. I know what religious clerics doing. look the website of Haeri (iraqi cleric in Iran) shameful and he put rules even for iran & Iraq. I'm not pro-Israel, but I'm not against Israel definitely. I think they have right to exist. However, we can learn from this experience...while Israel was building and constructing itself...Arabs were trying to destruct Israel and ignore themselves. the resutl is Israel became advance, Arabs became more backward. and they start to nogatiate, cuz they lost. Islamic nation now doing same, instead of building itself, it focus on fundemental princples they believe in, and they want prevent ppl from doing it. Instead of destroying the west, build the nation. instead of fighting, let's build our countries. after being great, you can talk. as long as you small, no one will care about you. why at all thinking of solving problems by wars? Israel is an example. let the peace go and stop encouraging violence. they took lands? huh..we took many lands, we don't expect others to demand them from us. Iran itself has many Arabic lands. I believe Iran has right on them, but not on Najad view Re: ARMSTRONG, I don't hate Islam. because I don't want to have hate in my heart. but I don't like Islam and I'm against Islam ideas. I love Muslims, my family and friends are Muslims. NOT you who decide if I hate others or not. I don't hate Muslims, I m criticizing this way of life you're talking about If I criticize communism, does that mean I'm against Chinaese and russians under former Soviet Union? Don't contradict yourself, Quran bash on many others, do Quran hate others? I'm free to criticize and say my opinion. I don't work under Islamic laws, I'm working under the international laws, the laws of the United States where I live now. and even My country laws don't prohibit free speech, but not practically in some extent. You are so sensitive when it comes to your religion. and even if it comes from someone who was among you. Islam is reason for poverty because of non-sense rules (backward), examine it again and tell me if I'm wrong by prove.

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  1. USA got independence 1776, some hundred years ago , and since then it is in path of development... Those countries most of them have their idependence in post 1920... not even a hundred years have passed .. Give em some time for development. They are rebuilding their nation form what is leftover..and most are not as blessed as America in Natural resourses. Though if you look at progress curve what they have is steeper.
  2. Failure of governance is intrinsic within Islam and always will be as long as they continue to mix their religion with their politics. Once a leader comes into power they also rule over the Ulama, thus the Shari'ah and fiqh change giving the leader absolute power of church and mosque. And, as the historically proven proverb goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. So as long as Islam blends with the State, Islamic countries will alway fail.
  3. One answer: some of their leaders tend to enrich themselves, and controll the population's consent by "throwing the stick" (braging about hatred, israel and other) in order to make people NOT think about their more important problems such as unemployment poverty or famine. That technique is very old, but still effective everywhere. For example: just as you see rioting in islamic countries, you do NOT see them in the US concerning oil companies who are purposly keeping prices high. Second Answer There are some societies which do not really mind cars or infrastructure. It does not mean that they cannot achieve the western standards, they simply prefer it that way. The fact is that modern infrastructure (cars+roads+tv+internet+electricity) worked its way through after industrial revolution (after a century and a half). Imagine Europe or US before that. The bottom line is, you cannot expect people from different social realities to conform to one standard. Not untill there is equal access to that standard and people accept it.
  4. I think any nation that is successful is one that helps its citizens succeed. People are allowed to work hard and keep some of the money they earn...if the government takes it all, then the people are poor..more education also helps the people....
  5. obviously u do not have enough lesson about the history of the world. i suggest i to find a book about it and read.( all of u ) when the european people r in the dark age, the muslim world is very well develop. this shows that it is not the religion that restrict its people from the development but the way it was done. fyi( if u r not knowing it yet) the west people r the one that seek knowledge from the muslims at that time. after the dark age, the islam world was fall apart because of some reason. and the revolution in the west. they decided to set their religion aside for the sake of development ( and yet, their religion r not the one that made them live in the dark age, but their priests). so, they went all out and start supresses the islamic world. after the world war 2, the ottoman empire fell ( please read about ww2 ). and after that, the young leader in turkey decided to be secular too, like the west. at that time, the west was already conquer nearly all the country in the world for atleast 300 years. they become rich because of that. only after the world war 2 that the countries in the world start to stand on their own and fight hard for independence. the islam world which was paralysed for 300 years,cannot immediately rebuild their nation. and after that, the things goes like what StupendousMan said. the west already 300 years ahead of other countries in technology. their economy is good too, thanks to the natural resourses that they took from the conquered, and the knowledge they develop, which some ( alot, i believe) from the islam world. the muslim people r nowadays divided to many large group. they r not united. thats why the development of their country r slow (not the religion itself) . and some of them think like Brian did. some did like what omnitel2000 said. so, that was what is happens to the world of islam today. it is the people who practise islam who r wrong, not the religion itself. many of them do not fully understand their own religion. what they do only believe what their father and mother believe ( so did nearly all of u). i didnt say that islam is wrong (im muslim too) but they dont practise islam way of life the right way . there is a lot of evidence for this (seek for ur selves).
  6. My professor discussed this in an "Art and Culture" class once. As I understand it, it's the other way around. The socio-economic state of these countries make them excellent breeding grounds for Islam. It is the religion that ~seems to them~ to court their situation the best. Not trying to compare in as insulting a way as possible, but it's kind of like Hitler's dogma at the time was exactly what the German people needed to hear. They were poor, starving, demoralized and humiliated. Hitler preached power, prosperity and pride, and a *whole nation* ate it up. Human nature, same the world over.
  7. Good question, first let discuss the unstablity problem, As you may know Henry Kissinger, US Secretary of State under Presidents Nixon & Ford says "Oil is much too important a commodity to be left in the hands of the Arabs.---" Fact is Oil cant be produced in an unstable country because it is flamable itself and need lots of pipeline to transfer so there must be stable countries in unstable atmosphere. Middle east has been unstable for many years, USSR and UK has been in territory before WWI and has been replaced by US after that. Israel and Arabs have problems since WWII, Iranians and Arabs have problems even before Islam... About being poor, apart from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahran, Iran, Iraq, Indonesia, Turkey, Lebonan... there are some poor Islamic countries like Yaman, Afghanestan.... I don't think Islam has been the reason that they are poor, they are mostly countries without resources and good leaders, some of them have been in war since many years ago like Afghanestan. You can't generalize it, there are many rich Islamic countries and there are poor Islamic countries, you can't say every christian country is rich or every Islamic country is poor. Proper question is why Islamic countries are not advanced in technology. You can't compare Islamic countries with China, as you know most of resources are in Small countries and they rather buy western cars every year instead of making a automobile factory, you must take it easy on them, you can't force Emarat Arabs to do so, you better know how they are, they even don't explore their oil, western companies do that for them, they don't have an army, western troops protect them, what do you expect of these people? to spend money on science? Do you think its Islam fault? This is not a problem with Islam, this is a problem with Muslims, you know that most of Islamic scientist weren't from Saudi Arabia. You know that science has been emphasized in Islam, there is a Hadith from Mohammad that says "Learn Sience from cradle to grave" Like always you have neglected Iran, I have told you, you don't know anything about Iran, there is an Iranian passenger car(Maybe not comparable with BMW but It's not that bad, it can satisfy euro3 standards http://www.ikco.com) and TVs, there are some Iranian TV producers and there are good universities in Iran, they export lots of students each year and we explore our oil ourselves.
  8. this is not a right formulated quetion too... cuz of the obvous intention to refer it to the beliefes of islam... and this a big mis-conception... many african cuontries are poor and unstable.. is this because of islam.. and many latin american countries too.. is it because of islam.... many islamic countries are building themselves up again and did a great effort till now, such as malaysia, indonisia, tenusia, uae, qatar, saudia, kuwait, syria, moroco, turkey, iran,.... then i think it is not about the relegion.. and it is about your attitude toward the world.... and let me tell you if you hate islam then you muslims as well... cuz islam is not a story we say in the mousque.. it is a constructive behavioural way of life... A REPLY: i allready answered your question.. if a country is poor and unstable it is not because if being belonging to certain relegion.. cuz many other muslim cntrouis are not poor nor unstable and many other non-muslim countries are poor and unstable.. but you still insisite to stick this weakness to islamic bliefes!!!!... many of above ppl told you the same theme... and i doubt you were among us as you always say... and if you were, you are just STUPID to leave the gift you had and go worshiping a MAN....... and my bliefe is based on logic and mind... you just cant read my lines well d***head... MOREOVER: name these countries... READ THIS TOO: IF STATE IS SPLITTED FROM RELGION AND YOU LIKE THIS.. WHY DID YOU CONVERT?(IN CASE YOU WERE MUSLIM AS YOU KEEP TELLING) WHY YOU JUST STAYED MUSLIM AND TRYED TO SPLIT RELGION FROM STATE/??... IT WONT MAKE A DIFERENCE TO YOU AS LONG AS YOU WILL JUST FOLLOW YOUR OWN PLEASURES... EVERY COUNTRY HAS A CONOSTITUTION.. AND IT REFERS TO IT TO CHECK IF THEY ARE DOING IT RIGHT AND DOING RIGHT THINGS.. BUT YOU JUST WANT TO BE WITH NO CONSTITUTION.. AND IF YOU TELL ME HUMAN MIND IS ENOUGH.. THEN WHY GOD SEND US MASSANGERS... WE WOULD REACH THE TRUTH WITH OUT HIS HELP.. THINK
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