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why in the islamic countries the christians dont have freedom to practice their religion?

or to preach the Bible ect.. in saudi arabia for example it's death penalty to wear a cross.. in iran as well almost in the islamic countries it's forbidden to make new convertions to christianity.. in the western world.. the muslims have the freedom to build mosques.. in islamic countries as a christian you have to suffer insults or being a citizen of second class, you can't find a good job because you are christian.. or use a cross or bible ect.. why is that? if Islam is tolerant, why the christians are suffering in those countries?

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Did you know that Saddam let Fred Phelps and his spawn preach in his Country?
Crusades my friend..... here they come. Crusades2k?
probably because those countries see all the hate and divisiveness that xians create here using the bible -- and they decided they want nothing to do with bible hate and bible division in their country!!
Classic bait and switch. Tell people there's no compulsion in religion when you're in recruit mode, but when islam takes over, the rules change... kujhtrd: Christians in Egypt are not allowed to (obey Jesus's command and) share their faith. This video is from a believer in Egypt, I can only imagine what inspired it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=cpf0WMA5_A0 Cow Girl 2: My parents lived in Cairo too, and at their church they were told what the rules were. No sharing the gospel. My parents were also there when muslims torched the church where marking the spot where Mary, Joseph and Jesus supposedly fled from Herod. There were riots 2 years ago over a christmas play in Alexandria. Christianity is tolerated there at best. Kim & Suray: I hope that's true, I haven't heard of Christians having problems in Jordan they way they do in so many other islamic countries. Sue: There are chrsitians in saudi arabia, they wisely hide their activities. The mutaween hunt them down even when they worship quietly in their own homes.
Because Islam, at least the Wahibian form, is the most dogmatic and intolerant religious practice in the world.
Because it is an insecure religion that wants to take over the world with Islam. If anyone converts away, there needs to be dire consequences. In Christianity, there is sorrow when one leaves, and we just choose to pray for the return of the prodigal. But only cults sponsor physical threats. andy b- The Crusades took place because the Roman Catholic Church translated the Bible into Latin, locked it up behind gates and said, "Thus and thus is what God says." From this we got inquisitions, crusades, indulgences and the like. When the reformation translated the Bible into German and English, the average person could stand up to the evil popery and say "No!" for the Bible says thus and thus. Then the killing and fleecing soon stopped. Today, the Qu'ran cannot be translated because it is a high and holy form of Arabic. The teachers say the Qu'ran commands to make Jihad against the infidels. They honor woman and children blowing themselves up to kill the innocent. Is that what the Qu'ran truly teaches? Will someone stand up and say "No"? Looks like history is repeating itself once more, and Islam is now the new Roman Catholic Crusaders.
Exactly. Now think about why Bush has such good relations with Saudi Arabia? Why did he defend Saudi Arabia when 15 hi-jackers were from there. Why did he rather attack a vulnerable country which had nothing to do with 9/11?
Could be because islam has a long, long history of violence, hatred and intolerance. There is NO room for discussion or criticism. And, certainly NO room for anyone to seek the love and mercy of the one true God, and salvation of the eternal soul thru His Son, Jesus.
its all about control., specialy control women!
They're close-minded and arrogant.
I find it amusing as it seems that many christians want the U.S. to be just like those places.
the information you provided isn't accurate information at all. in Egypt for example, churches are all over the country and they show sunday prayer on tv for Christians. and NO there is no such a thing called death penalty to wear a cross in Sudia Arabia. Christians are part of the society of these countries, however as any minorities they try to prove themselves. and they do preach their religion on the church. also there are laws in Muslim country that prohibit Muslims from preaching in certain areas.
Same reason that Christians are persecuted for their beliefs in America - lack of tolerance. Companies have prayer rooms for Islams but heaven forbid you bring out the Christian Bible during your lunch hour. People get freaked out and start complaining. Sad that a country which was founded on religious freedom can't be more tolerant. But I guess if you're in the minority you have a better chance of having your needs met.
it was foretold that christians would be hated
Firstly, where do you get your facts? Have you ever been to one of those countries? Do you know any Muslims from there? I do. They are the kindest, most generous people I've ever met, far above & beyond any "christians" I've known in my life. Secondly, not everywhere is Amerika & even in Amerika certain groups are not allowed "freedom of religion," regardless of the rhetoric. Not to mention that class wars (as you've mentioned,) cross boundaries everywhere, anyway. Everyone has their own reasons for keeping others down. It's much more complicated than you seem to think.
Now you probably understand, why the Crusaders did what they did. They understood the reality of the situation, I'm still waiting for the governments of Christian countries to reach the same conclusion today!!!!!.
In Egypt there are churches. Christian people do what they want here in Egypt. Here in Egypt my husband knows a taylor that is Christian. ~peace
The reason is they have never had separation of church and state.. like our country.. Thats the only reason you are able to practice your religion freely... Now for the hypocrisy, Christian right wing groups are doing everything they can to break down this wall.. An example would be putting the 10 commandments on the court house steps, forcing children to say prayer in school and im sure you can think of the rest... They are so brainwashed, they cannot follow the serious implications of their political practices. If they have their way, there will be no separation of church and state and the mideast scenario you describe above will happen here... Get out your Berka's and cover those legs....
I'm not an expert on this but isn't the religion also part of the government in those parts of the world? Another great reason our founding fathers protected us with separation of church and state.
Christians are not suffering. They are free to practice their faith.
Because these countries are not democracies. You take your freedoms for granted. Besides, Christians are not the only ones suffering. Muslims suffer under oppressive governments as well. Considering the history of christian missionaries and the harm they do to native cultures, I can't say that I blame these countries.
This is NOT true. Go and see how they can freely practice their religion. Peace.
Because they view Christians and Jews as infidels, lower-life forms -- at least, that's what it says to believe in the Koran. And also, they are supposed to slay the Pagans -- Christians and Jews.
You've carefully mentioned two Islamic countries that are not lenient in this regard while poorly attempting to prove your point.... Saudi Arabia and Iran. What about the rest of the Muslim countries in the world? Pakistan, UAE, Turkey, Egypt etc... They're pretty ok with the religious tolerance issue, you know.
well that only applies in saudi arabia and iran other islamic countries dn't have that!! i live in jordan it's an islamic country too and both christians and muslims are living in harmony ....trust me!!!and isalm is against that kind of biased actions...in the past christians who lived in muslims country (tribes) were treated nicely there was no discrimination what so ever ..they built churchers they praid, they had jobs they mingled with muslims they were free to do whatever they wana do as long it doesn't offen islam !!!and about the cross : it is banned because muslims dn't believe that jesus was crucified so wearing it would be against what they believe in
Come and visit Jordan,which is a Muslim country, you will find hundreds of churches, Christian centers, Christian schools Catholics, Orthodox, Baptists, Anglican, Latin, Romans, name what you want. I am a Muslim from Jordan, I have had my elementary education in Christian Schools like College De La Salle and the Terra Santa, I have lot of Christian neighbors and friends , we never feel that we are different citizens in Jordan. If you want to be sure I can give hundreds of Christan references in Jordan ,they will confirm to you that they are 100% free in this Muslim country. For the time being ,please visit the following websites about Christianity in Jordan: http://www.holyland-lutherans.org/amman.htm http://www.elcjhl.org/cong/amman/ http://www.elcjhl.org/ http://www.oikoumene.org/?id=3748 http://www.ncccusa.org/nccmiddleeastdelegation/delegphotosjordan.html And review what WIKIPEDIA is writing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Jordan The following site is about the official Islamic authorities and how they are dealing with Christians in Jordan with kind relationship and dialog: http://www.aalalbayt.org/en/conferencesandsymposiadialogue-c.html The schools where I learned when I was young: http://www.christusrex.org/www1/ofm/cust/TSschist.html http://www.lasallejordan.org/pages/timeline.asp So if you want to know the truth there are many sources that makes you reach the facts, not only to hear from persons who has certain thoughts that are bult on missleading information.
why did you choose Saudi Arabia,there are no Christians in Saudi Arabia?? Syria,Jordan ,Palestine and Lebanon are considered to be Islamic countries,the Christians there go to the church..and wear the cross..and no one ask them what to do..my neighbors are Christians they go to the church every Sunday...they celebrate the Christmas's and the Easter...no police ban them from doing that...we visit our neighbors and it is OK. so what a thing you talking about? my friend presented me a bible and I presented her a quran...what is the problem then?
Someone has told you a lie. I lived in EGYPT for a few years, with the American Military and Christian religion was practiced there and the Jewish have a very large Temple there, also. In Israel, Jerusalem the Christian, Jewish and Muslim have sacred religious buildings, that are Holy to ALL of them. Maybe you need to travel overseas.
You are totally wrong. Christianity is no more original. It has been corrupted. Whereas Islam is a religion choosen by God for the whole of mankind. Now what is left by preaching about Christianity to the Muslim World. It cannot withstand. There is no truth in it. That is the reason they are never encourage to preach with their false promises. That's all.
Because the leaders of those countries have twisted the Koran so that they can keep a stranglehold on power. Any freedom, religious or otherwise, is a danger to their power. Iraq had a thriving Christian community before the US invaded - look up the Chaldean and Assyrian churches. But after the stability there was destroyed, the radicals starting eliminating the Christians there. To them, the West = Christianity. Not allowing them in to their countries is their way of keeping Western thought out.
i live in a muslim country too and here they have churches, christian schools,holidays for christmas,easter. all the malls are decorated with christmass trees and christmass is celebrated openly. people can wear a cross and practice their religion freely provided they dont try and convert muslims. if you are from america or the west, i like to ask you why have you put up this question?? dont u see the hate , discrimination and racisim many nationalities and religions still face in ur country and in western society?? if america is boasting freedom of speech and equality so then why do certain nationalities , coloured people , different religious people still suffer racism at work places,on the streets in department stores all over the west?.... you are not allowed to wear a cross and it bothers you so much than why is it if a muslim women or a sikh man chooses to wear a head cover she/he is mocked and looked down upon in the west? if you have my answers then you will understand the answer to your questions too. if you can guarantee me a religion who's followers are full of justice,equality,free from racism/discrimination,honest,peaceful..bla bla bla then i am ready to change to your religion right now! i challenge you!
here in the usa, muslims might have to freedom to build mosques, and so do they in muslims countries like Pakistan, i'v lived there and there are many churches there i'v seen, but as for the "suffer" and "insults" i can assure u that muslims here in the usa face more than the christain in muslim coutries, muslims are constanly harrased, laughed at, made fun of, stearotyped, and everday have to deal with people who have nothing but hate for them..... u call this freedom?
lol.....u have gotta vistit egypt , they are practicing it freely and they are living with peace and harmony with muslims in everything.